For 15 years Hessel Winkelman has been running his own tour operator Flywise. Since 2021 own night trains have been operating under the GreenCityTrip brand and recently the new GoVolta day train and rail operator label has been launched. Looking at rail from a leisure customer perspective with a strong focus on packaging and price is where we think the difference can be made. Get customers to chose rail instead of air: that's what we're good at.